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  • All leglocks are taught and practiced at all belts.

    50 47.17%
  • All leglocks are taught, but restricted to higher belts.

    24 22.64%
  • Only straight leglocks are taught and practiced at all belts.

    5 4.72%
  • Only straight leglocks are taught, but restricted to higher belts.

    1 0.94%
  • Leglock are not taught.

    9 8.49%
  • Additional leglocks allowed at different levels until all are allowed.

    12 11.32%
  • I take SAMBO

    5 4.72%
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  1. Aesopian is offline

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    Leglocks allowed at your school?

    I'm wondering what the consensus is around here, since there seems to be several camps on the subject. I've made the poll options match the main views I've come across. I know they don't cover every possible situation (even my own) but they seemed to be the major ones. If your school's policy isn't represented above, let me know.

    As for my own school, straight leglocks are taught to every belt. Officially, only purples and higher are allowed to use them in sparring, but I've seen plenty of blue belts use them with no trouble. Heelhooks and any twisting locks are not taught because of safety concerns. I could probably learn them if I asked, but I would be expected not to use them in class. A lot of guys already have blown ACLs without heelhooks.
    Last edited by Aesopian; 9/13/2004 12:46pm at .
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    My school teaches everything, but the basic ground rule for sparring is no heelhooks. However, if you and your partner agree to it before hand, then by all means, go ahead and use them. The rule is more to keep noobs from blowing someone's knee.
    Seriously, most likely grabbing somebodies crotch like that is only going to make your situation much, much worse. Unless the person doing the gullotine has no pants on, then it's okay as long as they bought you dinner first. - Kidnemo

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  3. Dochter is offline

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    9/13/2004 12:55pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Anything goes, all levels.

    Heelhooks aren't super common though and people tap quick to them.

    One issue though is that white belts can't do any leg attacks in most bjj tournies. Blues can only do achilles (I think).

    This sucks for me as a white belt with good toe holds and toe hold setups when training for a comp like I am right now.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    People put me in kneebars and toeholds every now and then, but heel hooks are saved for blue and up. Gotta allow them if you want to fight against them...
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  5. Dochter is offline

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    Everything goes at all levels for GQ's nationwide right?

    Nevermind, they're not.
    Last edited by Dochter; 9/13/2004 1:09pm at .
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  6. Aesopian is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Thanks omega. Good addition. Now that I've read it, that's probably what more like what most school should probably do, since heelhooks and such are allowed at higher levels BJJ competitions. I think the problem is that instructors mostly deal with blue and white belts, so the higher belts don't always get instructed on leglocks like they should.

    Also, add comedy "I take sambo" option. Edit: Haha! It worked!
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Along similar lines, what's your schools take on other "risky" techniques like neck cranks, slicers (aka compression locks), hip cranks, etc?
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  8. Dochter is offline

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    Never done or for that matter seen a hip crank (unless you mean bannana splits or whatever the hell they're called). The rest are a go.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I've only seen and experience one hip crank so far, and the only reason I did so was because a guy visiting from another school specifically said "Here, let me show you this new hip crank some guys in New York have been developing." He did it on me, and yes, it feels like your hips are going to rip apart. And the setup for it wasn't anything rediculous, since it looks like they guy is just going for a guard pass at first.
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    9/13/2004 3:50pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    All leg locks are OK, but on heelhooks once you get it you call "catch" to give the guy a chance to tap before you start to crank.
    Also all slicers and neck cranks are kewl to do.
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